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JDAL of Spain? 2 years, 9 months ago #1

Junior Boarder
Hi!


Wondering why there are no posts or topics from JDAL if it's the right name. This year I found some truck from my childhood, unfortunately I have no pictures with me now. Think they are from 1972 or 1975 max. Very heavy and good quality toys, rare I don't know....


Somebody knows more?

Re: JDAL of Spain? 2 years, 9 months ago #2

Platinum Boarder
Hello Tom.


Very little is known about 'JADALI' toys.


The creater of the Jadali brand was a Mr Leon Gouttman. He came to the UK and became friendly with Audrey Mills and Sidney Ambridge at DCMT (Die Casting Machine Tools) the parent company of 'LONE-STAR' but supplier of diecasting machines to several British based toy companies at the end of the Second World War.


His Jadali brand of toys starting in 1948, were closely linked to products made by DCMT/Lone-Star. Toy vehicles are based on products from Lesney Matchbox with examples looking so close to Matchbox toys they are often mistaken for them.


The copyrighted image below shows a Lesney ERF Tanker then a Jadali ERF Tanker, see how close they are!









I would consider Jadali toys to be vary hard to find so classing them as rare is feasible.


I hope that helps.


Rollerman.
Last Edit: 2 years, 9 months ago by TheRollerman.

Re: JDAL of Spain? 2 years, 9 months ago #3

Platinum Boarder
Rereading Tom's post I think he means 'JOAL' and not 'JADALI' so my info does not apply.


'JOAL' toys and models are completely different to the Jadali I mention and are not so rare although they were not officially brought into the UK as far as I know.


Examples do turn up on ebay type auction sites.


Joal has been mentioned before here on the forum so have a look at this posting...


www.planetdiecast.com/index.php?option=c...d=72995&Itemid=0


Rollerman.

Re: JDAL of Spain? 2 years, 9 months ago #4

Gold Boarder
Jadali is a new brand for me, looks very good.


I have one Joal truck:













Also one pretty nice Jaguar


























Re: JDAL of Spain? 2 years, 9 months ago #5

Gold Boarder
Joal have been around for many years. A lot of their earlier production consisted of models adapted or copied directly from other ranges, for example the Foden Dump Truck (ex-Matchbox King Size), and from Dinky the Blaw-Knox Bulldozer and Albion cement mixer which was sometimes fitted with seats and a steering wheel. The skip truck shown in Politom2's post uses the adapted rear end of the French Dinky Unic, but with Joal's own Pegaso cab. This same cab was used on a variety of trucks in their range. Joal also did a large set of Caterpillar construction vehicles back in the seventies. More recently they have been producing exclusive models of Volvo trucks, buses and plant, Euclid dump trucks, JCB plant and modern Caterpillar equipment. They can be found at specialist collectors shops in the UK, such as Replicar of Halifax.

Re: JDAL of Spain? 2 years, 9 months ago #6

Platinum Boarder
The book "World Guide Model Cars 1:43", issued in 1991, lists the following models from Joal:


ref#/model/issue year


100 Jaguar E-Type Roadster - 1968


101 Simca 1000 - 1968


102 Renault R8 - 1968


103 Seat (Fiat) 850 Coupé - 1968


104 Renault R10 - 1968


105 Alfa Romeo Canguro - 1968


106 Seat (Fiat) 124 - 1968


107 Mercedes-Benz 300 SL - 1969


108 Chevrolet Monza - 1970


109 Mercedes-Benz 230 SL Hardtop - 1971


110 Mercedes-Benz 230 SL Roadster - 1971


111 Porsche Carrera 6 - 1972


112 Alfa Romeo Giulia SS - 1972


113 Chaparral 2 F - 1973


114 Ferrari 250 Le Mans - 1973


115 Iso Rivolta - 1973


116 Ferrari 612 Can-am - 1974


117 Mercedes-Benz C 111 - 1974


118 Adams Probe 16 - 1974


119 Ferrari 512 S - 1974


120 Twin Mill - 1974


121 Porsche 917K - 1974


122 McLaren M 80 - 1974


123 Seat (Fiat) 132 - 1975


124 Mercedes-Benz 350 SL - 1975


125 Lamborghini Miura - 1975


126 Citroën SM - 1975


127 Citroën CX Pallas - 1977


128 Chrysler 150 - 1977


129 Ford Fiesta - 1978


150 Iso Rivolta & Caravan - 1975


151 Mercedes-Benz 230 SL & Trailer - 1975


152 Citroën CX Pallas & Trailer - 1977


153 Citroën SM & Ford Fiesta & Trailer - 1978


155 Chrysler 150 & Ferrari F1 & Trailer - 1978


 
Note that the book never lists trucks, buses, construction vehicles etc.
Last Edit: 2 years, 9 months ago by Teebodk.

Re: JDAL of Spain? 2 years, 9 months ago #7

Platinum Boarder
I have 3 JOAL Toys, 1:50 scale but they are very large as they are heavy equipment. Compactor, Loader, and a Dump Truck












I have shown these before here on the site.

Re: JDAL of Spain? 2 years, 9 months ago #8

Gold Boarder
Very nice and in perfect condition.


Rampini also has the trucks but none of the Joals exceeds $20 in price so not really rare.






The following user(s) said Thank You: Nobleco

Re: JDAL of Spain? 2 years, 9 months ago #9

Platinum Boarder
The compactor has a few small chips on it but the other two are virtually mint and I have boxes for all of them. The scale is deceiving as these are huge models and are about the size of small to medium Tonka toys. I will see if I can get one out of my closet where they are stored.
Last Edit: 2 years, 9 months ago by Nobleco.

Re: JDAL of Spain? 2 years, 9 months ago #10

Platinum Boarder
Here is my Euclid R85-8 Heavy Dump Truck. It is 8" long or 20cm. I have put a Dinky Euclid beside and in the dump box so you can see the scale compared to the Dinky that most will know.






The underside has great details too. Steering front wheels and hydraulic like box lifters. You can see the engine detail is nicely done too.



I guess I should show the engine too.



Last Edit: 2 years, 9 months ago by Nobleco.

Re: JDAL of Spain? 2 years, 9 months ago #11

Junior Boarder
Hi everybody and thanks a lot!


Yes, it's exactly this brand I have. I recognize the number 211, 212 and 213...also may the 200-1 but not sure. Can't remember, once I'm back Italy I will take a closer look. remember only they was in good condition and I think to have some other model from this brand....will add pictures!


Thanks for the very good information I always get from this site members!!


Tom, Italy

Re: JDAL of Spain? 2 years, 9 months ago #12

Platinum Boarder
Joal dies were also shared by Kirk/Tekno (or the other way around). There is a good discussion here on the Mecedes Coup.

Re: JDAL of Spain? 2 years, 9 months ago #13

Platinum Boarder
Comparing the Joals and Teknos head-to-head, they are very similar but just different enough that i believe Joal copied them (and did not share dies).


 


Joal models (construction msostly by then) looks to be out of business as of 2015: 


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