The Corgi Ford Thames Walls Ice Cream Vans restored
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The Corgi Ford Thames Walls Ice Cream Vans restored 5 years, 4 months ago #1

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Another complicated thread (especially for Jim), hope you like it!


I hope you won't mind me separating this story into several postings, because I am typing a new text, and afraid to loose it on the way.

I read somehwere that it was expalined why this model has the steering on the left. In short, there are no right steering models, because the sller parked on the left, had to go out of the car, so straight on the pavement, and opened up the rear, no buyers (children!) on the dangerous street, but it all happende on the pavement. Even one of the decals says: left hand drive.



In March 1965 nr 447 appeared: a nice van in a diorama, seller and boy inlcluded. Also included a sheet of waterslides to place on the model. In October 1965 nr 474 appeared. The same model, but no diorama, smaller box, no figures, but........a handle in the rear!!!!!!

Here pictures of the models, both already restored. Only both figures I bought, unpainted. Normally I palce these finished model at the end of the story, but this way you can see the differences. Who can see the small mistake I made?
Last Edit: 4 years, 6 months ago by Keesie.

Re: The Corgi Ford Thames Walls Ice Cream Vans restored 5 years, 4 months ago #2

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Both model have plastic chromed bumpers/suspension, one unit. The rear side windows on BOTH (......) sides slide. A lot of parts are the same, apart from the interior piece. Nr 474 with the handle is of course the model which is even more interesting than the 447.



Turning the handle gives you......music! (This model comes with a musical card).


Apart from the always broken suspension and bumpers, most musical devices are broken as well. Time to open it up. I had two, so here all the parts. Note, both models are already sprayed. As I did not have the original light blue, I choose some other variations. The one on the left is my favourite, when combined with white (as you will find out later!) 




The musical versions ready to be built, together with non-musical versions, already done, in the factory colours (I finished that paint).
Last Edit: 4 years, 6 months ago by Keesie.
The following user(s) said Thank You: karls

Re: The Corgi Ford Thames Walls Ice Cream Vans restored 5 years, 4 months ago #3

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The music comes from a musical device, placed underneath the interior in the rear.

The Cleemput bible says: 'due to the space taken by the musical movement the figure that was in nr 447 could not be included'.

We are talking about a major mistake here. Not only this is in the old version, but you guessed, also in the new one. It is major, not only because the included figure(s) in the 447 are loose, and therefore have nothing to do with where the musical device is situated, but also there will never be a figure in the actual place in the rear where the device is situated. As a final I mentioned that the scale of both figures in the 447 box are to big for the model. This was one of my many remarks to Cavendish books, but ignored.

Of course a figure can be put in the model, and even more stuff to give 'more play value'. I will show you later.

Let's look at the musical device first. There is a ciliinder with small parts ticking out. It is rotated by the handle, and it touched the teeth of a comb. The comb makes the sound. You can sitll buy those today, but the construction differs slightly. With modern ones you can rotate them both ways. There is only one right way, but the wrong way will not break the teeth. With the shown old construction, the teeth will break when turned the worng way. Corgi did NOT place an arrow near the handle how to ratate, a mistake later made right with the missile launcher of the Batmobile (although that construction inside is different)

In the picture a device with and one without a comb. As you can see a lot of teeth are gone.
Last Edit: 4 years, 6 months ago by Keesie.
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Re: The Corgi Ford Thames Walls Ice Cream Vans restored 5 years, 4 months ago #4

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This part will interst Gerrit, as a music-man......


A complete turn of the cilinder should give you the tune TWICE. The comb has 12 teeth, and they are touched by the small parts sticking out of the cilinder. Because the teeth all have different lengths, each has it's own tone-hight. When nr 1 is the shortest, nr 12 is the longest, the musical scheme is:


8-2-5-8-2+12-8-2-5-8-2+12


Van Cleemput (this is for Jim...) says the device is from Switserland. This country has a historical reputation for quality watches and such. Well, probably Corgi never expected a 'looney' to open up the device, but once the comb is out, it reads:


"Sankyo Hong Kong".......yes, I told Cavendish and Mr van Cleemput. The Sankyo company still exists, and surprise surprise, they still make musical devices. I asked them if new combs could be made or bought, but my message was sent to a collegue. After a 'chain' of seven collegues, I was back to number one.......another reason to do all things that you can do, yourself.   


As you can see in the pictures and in the scheme, some teeth are not used. I unscrewed the comb from the device, and widened the two holes. Placing it back I could then manipulate the comb a bit, just a little bit, to position it right for the remaining teeth to funktion!








As the cilinder-axles was worn our as well, I had to make a spring to keep the cilinder in place against the comb. Of course the part is from an old VHS-tape......the part will not be seen once the interior and device are ready.








Done! Note the small adjusting screw at one end of the cilinder. Who will ever adjust it in the lifetime of the model???????





As I had to drill out the device from the interior, I used some nice screws and washers to place it back in.
Last Edit: 4 years, 6 months ago by Keesie.

Re: The Corgi Ford Thames Walls Ice Cream Vans restored 5 years, 4 months ago #5

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Even with the device in place, you can see there is room enough for either the top body part of a driving figure, or even, when a hole is made at the drivers seat location, a complete figure fits in. But let's take this baby a bit further. Corgi mentioned play-value? Well, let's give this baby play-vlaue, and add some chrome. This will give you the illusion that there is a load of icecream underneath...........

As you can see, painting is not too difficult, because the rear white and the blue upper shell fit well together. The sliding doors are a bit difficult to place though. I used some tape on the outside, which held them in place, and then closed the model.

The inside of the roof is a paper piece, the head-logo is rubber. Further I made STICKERS to complete the model.

A blue top and white base look so good together! I closed the model with some chrome 'thingies' I had in my boxes.
Last Edit: 4 years, 6 months ago by Keesie.

Re: The Corgi Ford Thames Walls Ice Cream Vans restored 5 years, 4 months ago #6

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And finally the finished model. I would run to this one to get an icecream, even in winter!
Last Edit: 4 years, 6 months ago by Keesie.
The following user(s) said Thank You: karls

Re: The Corgi Ford Thames Walls Ice Cream Vans restored 5 years, 4 months ago #7

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Thanks Keesie.


It's a pleasure to see your work.


That small mistake you mentioned. Is that the missing small round decal?

Re: The Corgi Ford Thames Walls Ice Cream Vans restored 5 years, 4 months ago #8

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Your work is truly amazing. Thanks again for sharing another great project !

Re: The Corgi Ford Thames Walls Ice Cream Vans restored 5 years, 4 months ago #9

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CorgiCrossEyed wrote:
Thanks Keesie.
It's a pleasure to see your work.
That small mistake you mentioned. Is that the missing small round decal?
   


 
Thanks guys, CCE, nearly right, the left side should have THREE small decals. The one furthest to the rear has a petrol lid on it. That one should not have a decal.
Last Edit: 5 years, 4 months ago by Keesie.

Re: The Corgi Ford Thames Walls Ice Cream Vans restored 5 years, 4 months ago #10

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I like the model but those chimes make my teeth itch

Re: The Corgi Ford Thames Walls Ice Cream Vans restored 5 years, 4 months ago #11

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Some more fabulous work there. These look factory fresh.


I like this model a lot bought one a couple years back but sadly it disappeared in post and i got refunded, since then I have have never really got back into collecting Corgi although there are a few lovely castings out there from Corgi.

Re: The Corgi Ford Thames Walls Ice Cream Vans restored 5 years, 4 months ago #12

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Superb work Kees,
I have one that will be in your possession this Saturday

Re: The Corgi Ford Thames Walls Ice Cream Vans restored 5 years, 4 months ago #13

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Thanks. Yes Theo, another one, but I saw the front bumper is almost gone, so I shall either repair it, or it will be for spares.

Re: The Corgi Ford Thames Walls Ice Cream Vans restored 5 years, 4 months ago #14

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Fantastic model, description and work. Thanks for this as I have never had one in my hands. Closest is the Mr Softee van and I also use tape on the windows when putting it back together. From what I read in the Corgi Bible, pg 180 and pg. 169 it sounded like there was a man in the back like the Mr Softee but I see now that cannot be. I guess they were talking about a driver as the 474 in the book has no driver. It could though from your pictures and work. There is also no drivers in the pictures of the 2 447 models on pg. 168. Was there ever a driver?
Your little mistake??? Looks like the Wall's Lollies sticker is on too high.

Re: The Corgi Ford Thames Walls Ice Cream Vans restored 5 years, 4 months ago #15

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Jim in the 447/474 the driver had to come out of the driving seat, go uot of the car and open up the rear to serve the icecream . There was never a driver figure in those models.


In those bigger sofftee vans (and kitchens) the driver/cook could go THROUGH the car to serve the people.


As far as I know there was a decal or sticker sheet and a description how and where to place them. One small sticker was left off (left side, last one to the rear)because there is a standing out tanklid there.