Dinky Toys and their real-world prototypes
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Re: Dinky Toys and their real-world prototypes 1 year ago #346

Expert Boarder
Thank you all for the wonderfull pictures.

I made a picture the Ford Zephyr today. I tried to discover the name of the real caravan , no luck so far .

regards

Jan Willem

















Re: Dinky Toys and their real-world prototypes 1 year ago #347

Platinum Boarder
Jan Willem, as far as I know this is an Essex caravan, but up till now I failed to find additional information or a photograph or whatever picture of the real one. Perhaps others could show an example?

Vriendelijke groet, Jan

Re: Dinky Toys and their real-world prototypes 11 months, 3 weeks ago #348

Senior Boarder
Great pictures, dinkyfan. And a bunch of fantastic old ads and photos.

The Swedish importer of Dinky Toys, Ludvig Wigart & Co AB, started to import the French Dinky in 1956. I wonder why not earlier. Did French Dinky export to any countries at all before 1955?

Anyway, here is another contribution to this thread, the Dinky 268 Renault Dauphine Mini-Cab:

Re: Dinky Toys and their real-world prototypes 11 months, 3 weeks ago #349

Platinum Boarder
French Dinky no. 32E / 583 Fourgon Incendie Premier Secours Berliet, the Dinky Toys model of a Berliet GLB 19a Fire Truck:







Some further reading in: Thierry Redempt et Noël Touillez, Utilitaires Dinky Toys et Dinky Supertoys. Toulouse : Editions Drivers, 2003 pp. 7-11.

Kind regards, Jan
Last Edit: 11 months, 3 weeks ago by janwerner.

Re: Dinky Toys and their real-world prototypes 11 months, 2 weeks ago #350

Platinum Boarder
This time the no. 40f/154 Hillman Minx Saloon:



Two of the many shades of colour





Another light brown / beige one, in a contemporary avertisement





Export or die: a blue left hand steering example






And a photo of a real real Hillman Minx in daily life of the 1950s

Regards, Jan

Re: Dinky Toys and their real-world prototypes 11 months, 2 weeks ago #351

Platinum Boarder
Jan--
I really enjoyed the photos of the Berliet Fire engine....that is a very nicely detailed Dinky and the real world photos show that Dinky did a very nice job with it. Thanks again for a wonderful post!

Terry

Re: Dinky Toys and their real-world prototypes 11 months, 2 weeks ago #352

Platinum Boarder
Another one, the no. 965 Euclid Rear Dump Truck, the model of a 15-ton rear dumper for quarry work etc.






A quote from Diecast Collector 80 (June 2004) page 5, an account by ex-Euclid employee R. Mitchell from Gwynedd:
‘I worked at Blackwood Hodge in Northampton for three years in the Export Packaging
Department All the workers, including office staff, were told that the ‘men’
from Dinky were coming to take photos and measurements from one of our Euclids,
with the intention of making a Supertoys model. Three different versions of the
Euclid were brought into the large parking area for them to ponder over and take pictures and they chose the most up-to-date Euclid to model. All the staff and engineers were ushered into one of the big assembly hangers, where every worker was presented with a pre-release model, as a present from management, but with an added bonus, a special Blackwood emblem lapel badge inside the box – I still have mine. As a matter of interest, the Euclid colour, a sort of canary green [I think he means yellow] with a touch of green, was difficult for Dinky to copy. They made three journeys to try out the early models, in the end. They got the Blackwood Hodge paintshop to mix the colour and supply 45 gallon drums of paint to the Dinky assembly line …’.

And below some pictures of the real one:






In action



Even these vehicles could capsize!



Presenting a nice view down under ...





Even a price list is on the internet, showing interesting details!

Kind regards, Jan
Last Edit: 11 months, 2 weeks ago by janwerner.

Re: Dinky Toys and their real-world prototypes 11 months, 2 weeks ago #353

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I notice on the Berliet fire tender that they have portable hose reels that can be unhooked and taken where they want to roll out the canvas hose length. My big question is that the the hose rapt around the drum is all one length or is the hose in individual lengths just rapt onto the drum.

The other question is. Jan where abouts were the pictures taken of the roll over Euclid was it somewhere in India or onee of the many Persian counties.

lovely lot of pictures of the Hillman Minx I remember them well.
Last Edit: 11 months, 2 weeks ago by GunnerJim.

Re: Dinky Toys and their real-world prototypes 11 months, 2 weeks ago #354

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Gunner,

Interesting question about the hoses. I will not be able to sleep until I have the proper answer. Luckily, I will have lunch tomorrow with the colonel of the Paris Fire Brigade and will ask him. I think that they are one length only and that shorter ones are carried in the truck but I may be wrong.

If any one has questions about the French Dinky fire engines, it is just the right time to ask them.

About the Euclid, they probably tried to make a side tipper like the excelent Dinky Berliet Stradair ref. 569 but it did not work in the way they wanted.

Re: Dinky Toys and their real-world prototypes 11 months, 2 weeks ago #355

Moderator
Too much load on one side of the truck and maybe the loader helped it over by grabbing the side of the box when it moved away. I have seen this on job sites here in Canada but with smaller trucks.

Re: Dinky Toys and their real-world prototypes 11 months, 2 weeks ago #356

Platinum Boarder
The colonel says :


The canvas hoses on the detachable reals are usually twice the hight of the drying tower at headquarters in Paris but they are rarely two hoses on a real.

The tower is 25 m High.

Does this answer the question ?
Last Edit: 11 months, 2 weeks ago by dinkycollect.

Re: Dinky Toys and their real-world prototypes 11 months, 1 week ago #357

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Jan, since we are discussing the Pullmore Car Transporter, I used your picture:



982 Pullmore Car Transporter with 27D/340 Land-Rover.

Re: Dinky Toys and their real-world prototypes 11 months, 1 week ago #358

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Dinkyman--
Very nice comparo there......neat to see the Dinky and the real one so well positioned and mimicked...nice job!!

Terry

Re: Dinky Toys and their real-world prototypes 11 months, 1 week ago #359

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dinkyman, nice pictures. The real Land Rovers were probably going to be prepared for U.S. delivery............ am I assuming to much from the picture???? dinkyboy

Re: Dinky Toys and their real-world prototypes 11 months, 1 week ago #360

Platinum Boarder
Then again, it could have been one of these seven Land Rovers that were imported to Australia in 1949 to be used on the Snowy Mountain Hydro-Electric Scheme.

Last Edit: 11 months, 1 week ago by GunnerJim.
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