I completely agree with your 'niggle': restricting the availability of an auction is (in my opinion) almost always like shooting yourself in the foot. I guess some selller think it's incredibly complicated to ship abroad, but in most cases it's not.


It seems particularly counterproductive to restrict sales in a case like you describe: a model widely available in one country and unavailable elsewhere. It's easy to guess where the buyers will be, isn't it? Shutting them out means the seller throws away 95% of the potential for an auction.


I guess some learn over time and decide to sell internationally, but people can be incredibly stubborn on this.

Je suggère que vous obteniez un certain arrangement avec une personne vivant en France entrant probablement en contact avec quelqu'un sur Les Annees Norev par exemple, j'avais un arrangement réciproque avec un ami en Belgique. J'offrirais sur les choses qui avaient seulement le poste britannique pour lui et il ferait le même pour moi dans l'ordre inverse.

I suggest that you get an arrangement with someone living in France contact someone for example on LES Annees Norev I had a similar arrangement with a friend in Belgium I would bid for things that were only Uk post and he would do the same for me. He is currently working in Russia so we dont do it now

Here is the last Atlas issued, as for technical reasons I could not access the site for a month, I could not post it before.

All the leaflets and certificates which are provided with the models are reproduced in the Dinky Toys encyclopaedia, they can be printed from there.

I have some extra original leaflets and one ring file if some one is interested : 24cp, 24k, 24n and 558.

Welcome back, Jacques. I have not been able to access the site for several months but suddenly it worked. Very strange...

Ragnar

Hello Ragnar,


Yes this site has random access. I have suggested to Christian to revert to the previous version and this is probably what has been done.

Do you by any great chance own the Tekno Scania car transporter with the semi-trailer like the Dinky Toys one ? Some people seem to think that the Tekno trailer has been supplied by Meccano. Why not ? but this requires some checking.

 

 

Yes, I think we determined it was a different casting - the Tekno came out a few years later, so one can assume they saw the Dinky and made their own version (with the opening gate and the extra tinplate ramp).  See

http://www.planetdiecast.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=61&id=11255&limit=15&limitstart=45&Itemid=0

from a year ago here. P2 has the Dinky picture.  BTW, the common Tekno version is with the Vovlo cab.  I hav enver heard of the Scania version - but anyone can make a code 3 now-a-days...

The next Atlas model should be the 24 z Simca Versailles and here is a pilot lot model which still has these awful chrome plated hubs. The colour should be yellow with black roof as the Dinky model of 1956.

I have always liked the French Dinky Chrome plated hubs. Makes them look more like Hub caps. Over here in Canada almost all cars have Full wheel covers on them or mags of some sort. Even the older cars of the 50's, 60's & 70's had hub caps. Not very often you would see plane painted rims over here. Must be common over in Europe and the UK I guess as most Dinky Toys have painted hubs.

Nobleco,
What I mean is that no post war Dinky Toys had chrome plated hubs. The Atlas collection is managed by Jean Michel Roulet who does not want to admit that the Dinky hubs were not chrome plated. They were simply spun and may or may not have been polished and have received some sort of varnish treatment. This is one of the many errors in Roulet's books.


This photo of my 24z Simca Versailles shows without any doubt that there is no chrome and that the hub rusts. Chrome does not rust.

As for the real cars, they used to have tons of chrome on them : bumpers, front grille, mascots, window frames, door handles etc... and some people used to add a lot of chrome plated accessories.

As all the chrome is imported in France mainly from South Africa and the gouvernement asked the car manufacturers to reduce the imports. Renault designed the Renault 5 without chrome. The bumpers were plastic, there was no grille and the hubs covers when any were very small. Everybody followed and now there is very little chrome plated metal on European cars.

Today, most wheels are aluminium because they are cheaper than steel ones and the covers when any are plastic painted silver.

dinkycollect, you are correct that chrome will not rust.... but if it becomes pitted, it sure will rust and that begins then spreads under the plating and appears to bubble up. Your wheel does not appear to be chromed. dinkyboy

Thanks Jacques, I had heard both versions of this story but when I restored 5 or 6 French Dinky toys for my collection, I found that they were NOT Chrome plated as you say but mearly Polished and maybe clear coated but there was no evidence of clear coating on any of the wheels I have. I did wonder about that and why did Atlas go with chrome (more expesive) instead of polishing them? We may never know.

We do know, it is Roulet who thinks that the Dinky Toys had chrome plated wheels and as he is managing the Atlas collections he has specified chrome plated hubs which I think look terrible.

More in about half an hour when I will have finished to translate my next post.

Roulet, the great, huge, fabulous self named expert in Dinky Toys has just published some news on the French Atlas web site.


Present continental collection.

The collection will be extended from 60 to 75 models (second extension) if they had known that there would be 75 models, many collectors would probably not have started. The next model after the Versailles which is currently been delivered will be a 24 series model followed by ancient models alternating with models with windows and interiors until the 75 th issue. Three models will have "complications" (what ever this means ? probably more elaborate models) The Citroên ID 19 station wagon either in ambulance or civilian finish, The ID 19 in R.T.L. finish around the 70 th. issue and the Peugeot 504 tourer the 75th. issue. The extension to 75 models will allow to issue a very small number of pre war models.


There will be more sets of two models in limited issue at a rate of two or three sets a year starting in 2013. The last set could be the set 24/55. After september 2012 there will be a Renault 4 set including the post office and fire chief car. (These two models were code 3 made by Roulet and a friend of him. In his books Roulet explains that these models were made at the factory in a small quantity and sold by the systems dept. manager ! This is all bullshit). At the end of this year, there will be a limited edition of a model which has not been issued yet by either Atlas or Dan Toys. For X'mas there will be four re-issues with variations, not only a new paint finish.

Dinky Toys book.

Roulet's new book published by Atlas will be available late in June or early in July, order forms should be received with the June model (lets hope that there will be less mistakes volontarely or not as in the previous book).


A collection of Dinky Toys trucks.

A positive market study has been done and this collection should start early in 2013. The collection will last for four years and include about 40 models and a few sets. Some Supertoys could be made in limited quantities and if they sale well there could be an issue every eight month.

The Dinky collection U.K.

The decision has now been taken to make a real test with a model (they have made two tests already but they never sent the models) and Roulet says that he has aproved the pre prod casting.


This collection will include original English Dinky as well as models from the French collection as is or modified as for example the Austin Healey 100 or the Triumph TR 2 with four spokes steering wheel, in racing finish and ridged hubs. These models may also be available on the French market.

2014 The 80th anniversary of Dinky Toys.

There will be a set which may include a commercial vehicle.


 
As a good politician, in his long message Roulet does not say anything which was not known already or which could not be guessed.

Many thanks Jacques for taking time and effort in translating this very informative information, and although as you said a lot of it has been leaked out before, I t is nice to know some sort of date is attached to the news.         

Regards Gradon

Times seem to be changing, as only  a year ago we where only just getting details coming through of what the current months model would be and the model would normally come out at the very end of the month and May last year was the turn of the Aston Martin DB. 

 This year, not only the Simca Versailles has been out a couple of weeks, the details where anounced at the end of April. Now today I find with still a week to go in May, the first details of June's release have been shown as the 535/24T Citroen 2CV in mid blue and white wheels.

 Is this progression and I wonder will the model be out soon after the new month starts? We can only wait and see.